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by vortexfan
Thu Feb 02, 2017 9:45 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Things That Make You Go Hmmmmm
Replies: 10
Views: 3835

Re: Things That Make You Go Hmmmmm

This year Region 4 AAA 113 has 6 top 10 ranked wrestlers. KDunbar, I take cream in my coffee. ;) Look at rankings and weight classes 132;138; 145 and 152; Region 4 AAA Then look at the other regions in those weight classes. I know bearhugger, Frank have too see this too, Let Me ask would you rather...
by vortexfan
Thu Feb 02, 2017 9:42 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Regionals if they were to change
Replies: 4
Views: 1834

Re: Regionals if they were to change

I agree Frank
by vortexfan
Thu Feb 02, 2017 8:40 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Things That Make You Go Hmmmmm
Replies: 10
Views: 3835

Re: Things That Make You Go Hmmmmm

Gator wrote:This year Region 4 AAA 113 has 6 top 10 ranked wrestlers.

KDunbar, I take cream in my coffee. ;)



Look at rankings and weight classes 132;138; 145 and 152; Region 4 AAA

Then look at the other regions in those weight classes.
by vortexfan
Thu Feb 02, 2017 6:19 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Regionals if they were to change
Replies: 4
Views: 1834

Re: Regionals if they were to change

Any opinions out there?
by vortexfan
Thu Feb 02, 2017 6:17 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Parkersburg South Schedule - Plus Alumni Day Info
Replies: 19
Views: 7319

Re: Parkersburg South Schedule - Plus Alumni Day Info

Sad but South should invite some OH and Pa teams and work out a deal for them to overnight and South can go to their place every other year. Just a thought.
Maybe South present team can have a dual with their all time alumni team LOL
by vortexfan
Thu Feb 02, 2017 6:13 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Region IV ranked wrestlers
Replies: 37
Views: 16444

Re: Region IV ranked wrestlers

Good post by panther coach and KDunbar; I like panther coach post due to the future of the sport, I have no problem with that State format. I think it would be a. If draw of fans and in turn generate revenue. No one system is going to be perfect. I do however think KDunbar has something if the parti...
by vortexfan
Thu Feb 02, 2017 3:52 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Region IV ranked wrestlers
Replies: 37
Views: 16444

Re: Region IV ranked wrestlers

How about fixing the problem to get the best wrestlers at the states year in and year out?

This state is not the size of Texas and Ohio; two regions!
by vortexfan
Thu Feb 02, 2017 3:18 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Regionals if they were to change
Replies: 4
Views: 1834

Regionals if they were to change

Just curious what this forum thinks, not sure if it does any good but what's folks opinion on having 2 regions and/or 3 regions? I truly believe this would be a step in right direction to get most talented wrestlers at states year in and year out. I think we all know there is problem with this consi...
by vortexfan
Thu Feb 02, 2017 1:31 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Separation of single A and AA
Replies: 16
Views: 5999

Re: Separation of single A and AA

I see your point, should be looked at, probably take a core of coaches to talk to committee at SSAC to explain that.
by vortexfan
Thu Feb 02, 2017 1:17 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Fixing the Image Problem
Replies: 3
Views: 1813

Re: Fixing the Image Problem

Very good post! I also know some very successful past pee wee and middle school wrestlers not participating in HS. I am all for improving the image! That is my intention on my posts, some very good opinions and ideas in this forum too, I just think we should look at what some of the barriers that ca...
by vortexfan
Thu Feb 02, 2017 1:10 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: AAA Region 1 Cream Analysis - 2016 Season
Replies: 5
Views: 2015

Re: AAA Region 1 Cream Analysis - 2016 Season

Sure would like someone to research how years passed may have worked with a two regional format.

Possible North sites for regionals; WVU coliseum, Fairmont armory, Wes Banco arena, Brooke HS, Parkersburg HS, Wheeling Park HS.

South sites; Charleston Civic Center, Beckley armory, Big Sandy
by vortexfan
Thu Feb 02, 2017 1:06 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Separation of single A and AA
Replies: 16
Views: 5999

Re: Separation of single A and AA

I see your point, on AA and A wrestlers. I say combine the classes possibly for individual state champs and have duals for team state championships (probably have to separate the classes for this) but not sure if some of the A and AA have enough for full teams either.
by vortexfan
Thu Feb 02, 2017 1:04 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Separation of single A and AA
Replies: 1
Views: 835

Re: Separation of single A and AA

I see your point, on AA and A wrestlers. I say combine the classes possibly for individual state champs and have duals for team state championships (probably have to separate the classes for this) but not sure if some of the A and AA have enough for full teams either.
by vortexfan
Thu Feb 02, 2017 12:59 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Region IV ranked wrestlers
Replies: 37
Views: 16444

Re: Region IV ranked wrestlers

Sad for the better ranked wrestlers who get left out States to other wrestlers they may have defeated, possibly numerous times. Can't believe people post life isn't fair or that's happened for years, why not propose a solution after those remarks. Wouldn't you want to see it improve for the future g...
by vortexfan
Thu Feb 02, 2017 12:54 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: The Pill
Replies: 13
Views: 4779

Re: The Pill

The pill takes the politics out; but many times a 3rd place finisher probably should have been 2nd place finisher. Seeding with two regionals North and South may have same situation but it could make brackets easier to figure, North Champ vs South 8th placer; South champ vs North 8 placer and so on....
by vortexfan
Wed Feb 01, 2017 10:29 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Region IV ranked wrestlers
Replies: 37
Views: 16444

Re: Region IV ranked wrestlers

Ok I know this post isn't going to change anything but it has been weighing on me for a while and I know it has been discussed already but the number continues to grow. The newest individual rankings list (when released) will have region IV with 11 top ten ranked wrestlers staying home from states ...
by vortexfan
Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:54 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: AAA Region 1 Cream Analysis - 2016 Season
Replies: 5
Views: 2015

Re: AAA Region 1 Cream Analysis - 2016 Season

Love the research you provided! As a leader of our country might say "Let's make Wrestling competitive again" "Let's make wrestling popular again" "Let's make the regionals great again" "Let's make the States great again" "LETS MAKE WV HIGH SCHOOL WRESTLI...
by vortexfan
Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:44 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: The History of Cream
Replies: 38
Views: 11569

Re: The History of Cream

Great wrestlers have not been qualifying for years. That's the point, so is that something we're all proud of and not try to improve from past history? HS football playoffs in the 70s used to be 2 teams then 4 teams then 8 teams and now "Lo and Behold" its 16 teams! Now looking at that wh...
by vortexfan
Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:02 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: The History of Cream
Replies: 38
Views: 11569

Re: The History of Cream

Thanks for guys like bearhugger; Gator, Frank. There should be concerns to make the sport better, why not be open minded about what's right? I'm not saying everyone gets participation trophies,It takes outside the box logical thinking to get the best wrestlers to compete and keep saying how other sy...
by vortexfan
Wed Feb 01, 2017 7:43 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Regional Realignment
Replies: 130
Views: 48775

Re: Regional Realignment

Thank u Frank! We need to look at alternatives to make the mprovements to this great sport. WVMAT forum followers when comparing to other sports remember HS football back in 70s only took the top 2 teams; then SSAC went to top 4 teams;then the top 8 teams and OH My oh My now 16 teams!! Which is bett...
by vortexfan
Wed Feb 01, 2017 1:47 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: The History of Cream
Replies: 38
Views: 11569

Re: The History of Cream

Again, I am not debating what the case was for Region I, and is now the case for Region IV. Not sure why everyone is up in arms now, but the fact of the matter is......it isn't right, regardless of who it affects. It wasn't right when it happened to Region I and it isn't now either. So as adults wh...
by vortexfan
Wed Feb 01, 2017 1:37 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Regional Realignment
Replies: 130
Views: 48775

Re: Regional Realignment

For the this particular great sport, the size of our state, the ever changing school system with consolidations , the traditional power schools, the fans, the coaches and yes maybe revenue. and the wrestlers. GET THE BEST WRESTLERS CONSISTENTLY TO COMPETE AT THE STATES! 2 regions North and South top...
by vortexfan
Tue Jan 31, 2017 12:44 am
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Regional Realignment
Replies: 130
Views: 48775

Re: Regional Realignment

Good Points Gator and B Sams; I think regardless what sport your participating in athletes,coaches and fans would like things to go their way but most of all you want the best participants to compete for the grand prize, Region 4 is loaded this year on AAA and Region 1 in AA/A but years down the roa...
by vortexfan
Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:42 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Regional Realignment
Replies: 130
Views: 48775

Re: Regional Realignment

Very true Adm on wrestlers working very hard around the state. I am disappointed on some of the comments about whining or saying this favors South, Huntington or whoever. To have the best for the sport, THE STUDENT ATHLETE, is to get the best 16 wrestlers competing at the states. Region. 4 in AAA an...
by vortexfan
Mon Jan 30, 2017 2:32 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: REGION 4 DOMINATION
Replies: 16
Views: 6561

Re: REGION 4 DOMINATION

So I am just curious, what is the correct answer for regional alignment? I see many ideas on here about 2 regions, 3 regions, change the regions, etc...so what happens in two years, or even next year, when everyone on here thinks it's unfair again? Just realign again? What happens when one of the p...
by vortexfan
Mon Jan 30, 2017 11:20 am
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Regional Realignment
Replies: 130
Views: 48775

Re: Regional Realignment

Bearhugger and Gator are two on here that I respect and enjoy their posts, Very knowledgeable and caring about this sport! Good post bearhugger
by vortexfan
Mon Jan 30, 2017 11:09 am
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: JV ALERT - Beckley Newspaper Invitational
Replies: 5
Views: 2229

Re: JV ALERT - Beckley Newspaper Invitational

Amazing what can happen when u let the JVs or B team members wrestle and compete. Congrats to Indy teams!
by vortexfan
Mon Jan 30, 2017 11:05 am
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: REGION 4 DOMINATION
Replies: 16
Views: 6561

Re: REGION 4 DOMINATION

I like the upsets too and the love of the sport but as stated in many posts by dedicated fans and coaches the best kids should be a states. One school that I keep in mind is Ripley one of the smallest AAA schools but is in the brutal Region 4 AAA; also some very good wrestlers won't go to the states...
by vortexfan
Mon Jan 30, 2017 10:11 am
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Regional Realignment
Replies: 130
Views: 48775

Re: Regional Realignment

I like the aaacoach26 proposal also; I am not favoring any school as I see post from coach Williams where this would allow Parkersburg and South to get more wrestlers to states and edge for Huntington to win their region., I just think the best wrestlers should get a shot at going to state. I hope s...
by vortexfan
Sun Jan 29, 2017 10:33 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Regional Realignment
Replies: 130
Views: 48775

Re: Regional Realignment

PROBLEM SOLVING STEPS: 1) IDENTIFY THE PROBLEM- (HAVING THE BEST (16) WRESTLERS GO TO STATE TOURNEY) 2) DEFINE PROBLEM- (A BETTER WRESTLER DEPENDING ON REGION NOT ON ABILITY GOES TO STATE TOURNEY) 3) SELECT STRATEGY- (HAVE TWO REGIONS NORTH AND SOUTH due to size of our great state TOP 8 PLACERS IN R...

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