Re: Seed Meeting
Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 10:08 pm
Who is talking about weight allowance? We just want a good turnout of wrestlers... There only appears to be 5 or less in many brackets. What is your concern and how is that important?
J rollins wrote:Vtauber wrote:Seeding is never going to be perfect no matter what. My son's head to head record gave him the 2nd seed at regionals (I thought that was pretty liberal myself) because the paperwork wanted his match-ups in the division he was wrestling at the state championships and the only times he has wrestles that weight has been at the qualifier and regional level because we decided to wrestle him up this year. He came away with the 1st at regionals. If it was based on his record he wouldn't have even been seeded at all at the state level. I know that studs sometimes wrestle up (not calling my own child a stud) then once at their natural weight without the record to reflect that someone could argue that a stud got missed.
I wrestle my son up as well. He usually does his own weight and the next weight up. I assume you did not do this because you have to cut your son to get him to the weight hes wrestling at states. The 2 lb allowance is causing parents to cut kids down knowing theyll get an additional 2 lbs at states. The reason its called "your division" is because thats where your son wrestles at throughout the year. Im not a fan of the 2 lb allowance or the "private weigh in" that can take place with the regional chairman. I know everything is debatable. Good luck at states!
Vtauber wrote:J rollins wrote:Vtauber wrote:Seeding is never going to be perfect no matter what. My son's head to head record gave him the 2nd seed at regionals (I thought that was pretty liberal myself) because the paperwork wanted his match-ups in the division he was wrestling at the state championships and the only times he has wrestles that weight has been at the qualifier and regional level because we decided to wrestle him up this year. He came away with the 1st at regionals. If it was based on his record he wouldn't have even been seeded at all at the state level. I know that studs sometimes wrestle up (not calling my own child a stud) then once at their natural weight without the record to reflect that someone could argue that a stud got missed.
I wrestle my son up as well. He usually does his own weight and the next weight up. I assume you did not do this because you have to cut your son to get him to the weight hes wrestling at states. The 2 lb allowance is causing parents to cut kids down knowing theyll get an additional 2 lbs at states. The reason its called "your division" is because thats where your son wrestles at throughout the year. Im not a fan of the 2 lb allowance or the "private weigh in" that can take place with the regional chairman. I know everything is debatable. Good luck at states!
My son has been right around the base weight he is wrestling this weekend all year and he made base weight at a qualifier without issue (he did not petition for a special weigh it). We (myself and his coach) really discussed the options before us for him this year. We ultimitly decided to wrestle him up (giving up more than 5 lbs) the only time we wrestled him at his natural weight was when he was wrestling up in age. That still wouldn't count toward his seeding. The tournaments that we have done do not allow for you to wrestle your natural weight and up in weight without also going up in age. He did wrestle at 4 tournaments this year at the weight he is entered for at States but it wasn't his age group. We do not cut weight because my son is elementary school age and also on the autism spectrum (he also has Pica so food and proper nutrition are even more vital to us as others). We really just wanted to make sure he lost enough matches this year to foster his desire to improve. I believe the spirit of the allowance is because kids are growing and they don't want parents to cut children down in an effort to keep them in the weight class they started the season out in. May your children also have good luck at States!
I didn't take your reply personally but figured I have nothing else to do so I'll tell my little man's story to anyone who wants to know.
For anyone not going to NUWAY in Michigan we (my son, his sister, some if his teammates, and some of his coaches) are all going to Columbus for the 10th Annual Wrestle Against Autism and would love for more people to come! It's April 8th ( early weigh in and clinic) and 9th (actual day wrestling happens)
Geoswaff wrote:Vtauber wrote:J rollins wrote:
I wrestle my son up as well. He usually does his own weight and the next weight up. I assume you did not do this because you have to cut your son to get him to the weight hes wrestling at states. The 2 lb allowance is causing parents to cut kids down knowing theyll get an additional 2 lbs at states. The reason its called "your division" is because thats where your son wrestles at throughout the year. Im not a fan of the 2 lb allowance or the "private weigh in" that can take place with the regional chairman. I know everything is debatable. Good luck at states!
My son has been right around the base weight he is wrestling this weekend all year and he made base weight at a qualifier without issue (he did not petition for a special weigh it). We (myself and his coach) really discussed the options before us for him this year. We ultimitly decided to wrestle him up (giving up more than 5 lbs) the only time we wrestled him at his natural weight was when he was wrestling up in age. That still wouldn't count toward his seeding. The tournaments that we have done do not allow for you to wrestle your natural weight and up in weight without also going up in age. He did wrestle at 4 tournaments this year at the weight he is entered for at States but it wasn't his age group. We do not cut weight because my son is elementary school age and also on the autism spectrum (he also has Pica so food and proper nutrition are even more vital to us as others). We really just wanted to make sure he lost enough matches this year to foster his desire to improve. I believe the spirit of the allowance is because kids are growing and they don't want parents to cut children down in an effort to keep them in the weight class they started the season out in. May your children also have good luck at States!
I didn't take your reply personally but figured I have nothing else to do so I'll tell my little man's story to anyone who wants to know.
For anyone not going to NUWAY in Michigan we (my son, his sister, some if his teammates, and some of his coaches) are all going to Columbus for the 10th Annual Wrestle Against Autism and would love for more people to come! It's April 8th ( early weigh in and clinic) and 9th (actual day wrestling happens)
Good luck to you and your kids. I have a son with Crohn's disease and wrestling helped him immensely and transformed his health. Did wrestling help with your sons Autism? We never wanted him to cut more than 5 percent of his body weight for health reasons ( he's a high schooler so that actually adds up to a weight class). Not cutting significantly never hurt him wrestling and he always had plenty in the tank in a full 3 round match. With his younger brothers, 6 and 8, we don't even try cutting weight but we do try and make sure that we maintain their weight and we start the season wrestling up as we figure their going to grow during the long season. Doesn't seem to affect their wrestling outcome, but hard to say for sure. Some folks find fault in everything other people do or say and see a conspiracy or dark plot behind every corner. You have nothing to justify. Best of luck.